Tag Archives: comment

Madhyama-adhikari Can Act as a Diksha Guru

(This post was originally published at Sampradaya Sun site.)

In the course of my regular reading of Srimad Bhagavatam, I’ve stumbled upon a nice quote from Srila Prabhupada in regard to the exchange going on between H.H. Bhakti Vikasa Swami and H.G. Sattvic Prabhu. Let me state that I’ve read the post with Sattvic Prabhu’s questions and listened the whole lecture given by Bhakti Vikasa Maharaja, answering all the points raised by Sattvic Prabhu.

In his article entitled “Conditioned Souls as Diksha Gurus? An Indefensible Position“, Sattvic Prabhu concludes with the following:

“A madhyam-adikary can act as guru but cannot act as a diksha guru, since the prospective disciple cannot advance under his insufficient guidance.

Only the liberated maha-bhagavata uttama-adikari can initiate disciples and perform the function of a diksha guru by dispensing divya jnana and removing the sinful reactions from the heart of the disciple.”

However, the following quote from Srila Prabhupada’s purport to Srimad Bhagavatam 2.3.21 says:

“As stated hereinbefore, there are three kinds of devotees of the Lord. The first-class devotee does not at all see anyone who is not in the service of the Lord, but the second-class devotee makes distinctions between devotees and nondevotees. The second-class devotees are therefore meant for preaching work, and as referred to in the above verse, they must loudly preach the glories of the Lord. The second-class devotee accepts disciples from the section of third-class devotees or nondevotees. Sometimes the first-class devotee also comes down to the category of the second-class devotee for preaching work.”

So, it’s very clear that the second-class devotee (aka madhyama-adhikari) is “meant for preaching work”, but also “second-class devotee accepts disciples from the section of third-class devotees or nondevotees.”

As far as first-class (aka uttama-adhikari) devotee is concerned, Srila Prabhupada says that: “Sometimes the first-class devotee also comes down to the category of the second-class devotee for preaching work”, which clearly shows that the conclusion, “Only the liberated maha-bhagavata uttama-adhikari can initiate disciples and perform the function of a diksha guru…” is simply not in accordance with the Bhaktivedanta purports.

your servant,
Gour-Gadadhara dasa

How/What to Preach

Today is disappearance day of Srila Prabhupada and, after long pause on my blog, I’d like to post my comment which was submitted to Dandavats site as a comment  to this thread.

Unfortunately it’s not the first time that we experience censorship from the editors…so, we submitted it the editors of Sampradaya Sun and it was published as How/What to Preach article.


“It would be tragic if Maharaja’s message was not available for those who have ears to hear him. This is something we are worried about…”[1. this quote is a part of the comment #46 which is posted by Sita Rama 108 on October 18th, 2011.]

We fully agree with H.H. Bhakti Vikasa Maharaja’s concerns about the direction towards which our movement is heading, and it’s not in his head only. With several devotees around us we are regularly discussing such issues. Moreover, we do not believe that MDM (Mid-day Meals) is the greatest danger, since there are other issues which Maharaja lightly touched upon in his reply explaining why the lecture was taken off his website.

So, instead of the (GBC E) Committee protecting the movement from such things, they want to control what the brahmanas/sannyasis can/should speak!!

Fortunately, there are (still) devotees in our movement like H.H. Bhakti Vikasa Maharaja who are ready to follow Srila Prabhupada’s instructions how to preach, which is nicely expressed in this Letter to Brahmananda, Calcutta, November 11, 1967:

“…Still I was maintaining the establishment simply depending on Krishna and then Krishna sent me everything—men and money. Similarly, if a sincere soul goes out and opens a center in any part of the world Krishna will help him in all respects. Without being empowered by Krishna, nobody can preach Krishna Consciousness. It is not academic qualification or financial strength which helps in these matters, but it is sincerity of purpose which helps us always…That is preaching, cooking, writing, talking, chanting everything one man’s show. I never thought about the audience. I was prepared to chant if there were no man to hear me. The principle of chanting is to glorify the Lord and not to attract a crowd. If Krishna hears nicely then he will ask some sincere devotee to gather in such place…

your servant,
Gour-Gadadhara dasa